Comments on: Lighting Theory http://thehubofdetroit.org/2009/08/27/lighting-theory/ The Center of Detroit's Cycling Community Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:13:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Doohickie http://thehubofdetroit.org/2009/08/27/lighting-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-153 Doohickie Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:49:33 +0000 http://hub.hosted.thermitic.net/?p=188#comment-153 <i>How does one convey the fact that riding with traffic is indeed safer?</i> I encountered a salmoning cyclist a couple days ago and told him, "You should really ride on the other side." He angrily responded, "I'm riding on THIS SIDE!" You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him cross the road. How does one convey the fact that riding with traffic is indeed safer?

I encountered a salmoning cyclist a couple days ago and told him, “You should really ride on the other side.” He angrily responded, “I’m riding on THIS SIDE!”

You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him cross the road.

]]> By: Hannah http://thehubofdetroit.org/2009/08/27/lighting-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-143 Hannah Thu, 13 May 2010 17:58:41 +0000 http://hub.hosted.thermitic.net/?p=188#comment-143 I had a schoolbus driver stop her bus to shout at me at Warren and Trumbull that I should be riding against traffic. I shouted back, "That's incorrect!" I don't know if she believed me or not. I had a schoolbus driver stop her bus to shout at me at Warren and Trumbull that I should be riding against traffic.

I shouted back, “That’s incorrect!”

I don’t know if she believed me or not.

]]> By: Rolando http://thehubofdetroit.org/2009/08/27/lighting-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-123 Rolando Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:12:32 +0000 http://hub.hosted.thermitic.net/?p=188#comment-123 I am looking for a partner to invent the first ever gelonic sonar self illuminating awareness system. Basically it works as a three coat paint system on the bike, one coat is the energy source, another the conduit triggerd by sonar waves (approaching car) and the last illuminates a bright glow. Think Glow Bug, neon green everesscence. I am looking for a partner to invent the first ever gelonic sonar self illuminating awareness system. Basically it works as a three coat paint system on the bike, one coat is the energy source, another the conduit triggerd by sonar waves (approaching car) and the last illuminates a bright glow. Think Glow Bug, neon green everesscence.

]]> By: githa hampson http://thehubofdetroit.org/2009/08/27/lighting-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-119 githa hampson Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:39:35 +0000 http://hub.hosted.thermitic.net/?p=188#comment-119 Lights can be distracting and disorienting and usually serve to make things more difficult to see. Some inner city politician here in LA recently was promising a streetlight on every corner or something and to me, that's a nightmare. Yes, it was an area with street-crime problems, but still, fake lighting sucks for the most part.. And I have more to say - besides being a visual nuisance/hindrance they make noise. The buzzing alone ought to be illegal and is enough to make people feel low-down and mean. Why is that ok? I think probably lights or at least reflectors on a bike are a good idea - I really don't know. However, I do for sure know that streetlights are a wretched blight on our society, for the most part. Mercury and sodium vapor lights are ultra-foul - is that what they use? Anyway, those are my thoughts. More bikes - fewer cars. Lights can be distracting and disorienting and usually serve to make things more difficult to see. Some inner city politician here in LA recently was promising a streetlight on every corner or something and to me, that’s a nightmare. Yes, it was an area with street-crime problems, but still, fake lighting sucks for the most part.. And I have more to say – besides being a visual nuisance/hindrance they make noise. The buzzing alone ought to be illegal and is enough to make people feel low-down and mean. Why is that ok? I think probably lights or at least reflectors on a bike are a good idea – I really don’t know. However, I do for sure know that streetlights are a wretched blight on our society, for the most part. Mercury and sodium vapor lights are ultra-foul – is that what they use? Anyway, those are my thoughts. More bikes – fewer cars.

]]> By: Not a British Cyclist. http://thehubofdetroit.org/2009/08/27/lighting-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-53 Not a British Cyclist. Thu, 12 Nov 2009 05:10:47 +0000 http://hub.hosted.thermitic.net/?p=188#comment-53 A great question, Jess! Jack and I had a funny conversation recently regarding the phenomenon of the "British Cyclist" and what modes of education were (or weren't) available both institutionally (via early/drivers ed) and on the street at, or hopefully before, the point of impact. I personally would love to see Sonic the Hedgehog style arrows taking up the entire lane of traffic. Street teaming it is one thing I'm interested in educating kids and adults alike in; I bet Augusto Boal (rest his soul) would have a field day with the subject. A great question, Jess! Jack and I had a funny conversation recently regarding the phenomenon of the “British Cyclist” and what modes of education were (or weren’t) available both institutionally (via early/drivers ed) and on the street at, or hopefully before, the point of impact.
I personally would love to see Sonic the Hedgehog style arrows taking up the entire lane of traffic. Street teaming it is one thing I’m interested in educating kids and adults alike in; I bet Augusto Boal (rest his soul) would have a field day with the subject.

]]> By: Jess http://thehubofdetroit.org/2009/08/27/lighting-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-50 Jess Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:50:12 +0000 http://hub.hosted.thermitic.net/?p=188#comment-50 I too had a near-collision with an unlit cyclist riding in opposition to vehicular traffic! But my guess is that this segment of riders are not reading progressive blogs from non-profit cycling organizations!? How does one convey the fact that riding with traffic is indeed safer? Street team it? I don't know?! But the last thing you want to run into is another cyclist! Is it full of irons? I too had a near-collision with an unlit cyclist riding in opposition to vehicular traffic! But my guess is that this segment of riders are not reading progressive blogs from non-profit cycling organizations!? How does one convey the fact that riding with traffic is indeed safer? Street team it? I don’t know?! But the last thing you want to run into is another cyclist! Is it full of irons?

]]> By: David Pertuz http://thehubofdetroit.org/2009/08/27/lighting-theory/comment-page-1/#comment-27 David Pertuz Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:59:14 +0000 http://hub.hosted.thermitic.net/?p=188#comment-27 When I was in Detroit this weekend I almost hit two cyclists who were salmoning at night, on an unlit stretch of Brush, with no lighting. Not smart! It is easier to get away with in Detroit, with its big roads and lack of traffic, but I suspect it will linger for a long time even as cycling commuties grow in the city. I still see it here, but mostly among people who are not experienced cyclists. david When I was in Detroit this weekend I almost hit two cyclists who were salmoning at night, on an unlit stretch of Brush, with no lighting. Not smart!

It is easier to get away with in Detroit, with its big roads and lack of traffic, but I suspect it will linger for a long time even as cycling commuties grow in the city. I still see it here, but mostly among people who are not experienced cyclists.

david

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